Haunted House Nightmare.

[Animavore]

Please, please, please grow a pair.

A millionaire businessman has become so spooked by the "haunted" £3.6m mansion he bought last year that he has handed the property back to the bank.

Anwar Rashid says he was forced to leave Clifton Hall


Anwar Rashid, 32, described how he, his wife and their four young children lived in fear after they began hearing screams in the corridors shortly after moving into Clifton Hall.

They also claim to have seen apparitions and heard knocking on the wall of the 17-bedroom mansion in Nottinghamshire.

But it was the sight of blood spots on their 18-month-old son's bed clothes that finally forced the family to abandon their luxury home, Mr Rashid said, comparing his experience to Nicole Kidman's film The Others.

"We were like the family in The Others. The ghosts didn't want us to be there and we could not fight them because we couldn't see them," he said.

"The day we moved in we had our first experience. We sat down in the evening to relax and there was a knock on the wall. We heard: 'Hello, is anyone there?'

"We ignored it the first time but two minutes later we heard the man's voice again. I got up to have a look but the doors were locked and the windows were closed.

"On another occasion my wife went downstairs to make milk for the baby at 5am and she saw our eldest daughter watching television.

"She said her name but she wouldn't respond. My wife realised something was up, so she went back upstairs to check on her and found her fast asleep in her bed.

"When we found red blood spots on the baby's quilt, that was the day my wife said she'd had enough. We didn't even stay that night. It was the last straw, we felt that they had come to attack us. It was really emotional."

Clifton Hall, which dates back to the Norman conquest, has 17 bedrooms, 10 reception rooms, 10 bathrooms, a gym and a cinema.

Mr Rashid, who is worth £25m and made his money through a chain of nursing homes, said: "I am now looking at a new property in Nottingham. I don't think I will ever buy an old building again because of what has happened."

Dumb ass should be done for child abuse...

When we found red blood spots on the baby's quilt, that was the day my wife said she'd had enough.

....What? You didn't take her to the hospital?
Moron.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... ll_Mansion

[loveberry]

So what's really going on? Are people making shit up? Deluded? There are enough haunted house type stories, I suspect there is something going on that science hasn't explained yet. Or maybe it has and I haven't read up enough.

[Animavore]

So what's really going on?

Good question. And one that should be investigated before running off and crying 'ghost.'
All the millions of cameras in the world and not one ghost, angel or fairy has made an apperance. Not one miracle. Nothing.
Are they camera shy?

[Jerome]

Dunno, but the gentleman in question should have called me. I would have cheerfully discussed the issue with him - and would not have charged. Where is Clifton Hall? I'll have a look later at this, just signing off for the day, but investigating ghosts is, to quote Dexy's Midnight Runners "No, Im not bein flash/ Its what I'm built to do"

j x

[loveberry]

So what's really going on?

Good question. And one that should be investigated before running off and crying 'ghost.'
All the millions of cameras in the world and not one ghost, angel or fairy has made an apperance. Not one miracle. Nothing.
Are they camera shy?

I'm thinking more like... maybe a house is on a spot where there are weird wind currents, stuff moves, weird sounds happen, that sort of thing. Or something to do with electricity or magnets or some kind of underground activity. Who knows?

I have a fascination with things like that - Nessie, the Bermuda Triangle, haunted houses, etc. Either it's lots of people with some wacky psychology or something cool we haven't figured out yet. It's very interesting.

[martinelv]

No, come on guys. When there is no ready explaination for something woo, it has to be ghosts. Has to be!

[Jerome]

No, come on guys. When there is no ready explaination for something woo, it has to be ghosts. Has to be!

If the guy is a multimillionaire, it had better bloody be. I need the money.

j x

[rhm01]

It did occur to me that this was a credit crunch story. What better way to get out of your obligations on a property (he "returned the keys to the bank" whatever that means) and still save face? It's not that I'm strapped for cash, it's the ghosts that have driven me out. The report says he's worth 20m but where has that information come from?

[Fallible]

"We were like the family in The Others. The ghosts didn't want us to be there and we could not fight them because we couldn't see them," he said.

Uh...Nicole and her two creepy sprogs are the ghosts. So unless you are ghosts, you were not like the family in The Others.

On another occasion my wife went downstairs to make milk for the baby at 5am and she saw our eldest daughter watching television.

"She said her name but she wouldn't respond. My wife realised something was up, so she went back upstairs to check on her and found her fast asleep in her bed.

Why the hell would you go upstairs to check on your daughter if she was there in front of you watching the TV?

When we found red blood spots on the baby's quilt, that was the day my wife said she'd had enough. We didn't even stay that night. It was the last straw, we felt that they had come to attack us. It was really emotional.

Of course. Blood spots on your child always mean that ghosts are trying to kill you. They do not mean that your child has some small injury, or that you perhaps have a ripped hangnail.

I am now looking at a new property in Nottingham. I don't think I will ever buy an old building again because of what has happened."

Great. More for the rest of us. More for the rest of us millionaires... OK maybe not.

He's not a Muslim by any chance, is he? I've spoken to one before who held a strong (to the point of blinding) belief in djin. The tone of this is similar.

[Peter Harrison]

No, come on guys. When there is no ready explaination for something woo, it has to be ghosts. Has to be!

If the guy is a multimillionaire, it had better bloody be. I need the money.

j x

Didn't you just say you would do it without charge?

I wonder how many exorcists were lined up to scam him before he decided to sell.

I agree with others who said they really should have had the child checked over but I'm going to suggest a possible explanation for the blood: Nose bleed?

[bujin]

It seems that Mr. Rashid did call in the "paranormal experts".

However, having seen the website of these self-proclaimed "experts", it's not hard to understand why they didn't solve any mysteries...

http://www.tapitcrew.info/

[DuckPhup]

It seems that Mr. Rashid did call in the "paranormal experts".

However, having seen the website of these self-proclaimed "experts", it's not hard to understand why they didn't solve any mysteries...

http://www.tapitcrew.info/

So... what is it that we should infer from the team members' profiles?... that obesity causes belief in woo, or that belief in woo causes obesity?

[Clint Hollow]

They've got a fucking tour of the house in October

http://www.tapitcrew.info/index_files/Page2277.htm

something a bit dodgy about that

(though if I'm honest, I'd bet it'd be quite fun)

[mother_teresa]

So what's really going on? Are people making shit up? Deluded? There are enough haunted house type stories, I suspect there is something going on that science hasn't explained yet. Or maybe it has and I haven't read up enough.

Oh my ! The "Ghost of the Gaps" !! ...

Regards.

[Jerome]

No, come on guys. When there is no ready explaination for something woo, it has to be ghosts. Has to be!

If the guy is a multimillionaire, it had better bloody be. I need the money.

j x

Didn't you just say you would do it without charge?

I wonder how many exorcists were lined up to scam him before he decided to sell.

I agree with others who said they really should have had the child checked over but I'm going to suggest a possible explanation for the blood: Nose bleed?

Yes, I would. I was joking about the money Peter. I thought nose bleed, but then I had an even weirder idea, based on image of blood dripping through a ceiling, and a haunted house. It's just a scene from something I watched in childhood, but the title of this drama (set near Bristol as I recall) was The Cliffton House Mystery. Cliffton here denotes the suburb of Bristol obviously, but the name of the house and the blood thing made me wonder if the owner was spooked by little more than childhood memories, and his own unconscious. The show aired I believe in 1978 in all regions ITV as a childrens show. Anyone know more?

j x

[Jerome]

So what's really going on? Are people making shit up? Deluded? There are enough haunted house type stories, I suspect there is something going on that science hasn't explained yet. Or maybe it has and I haven't read up enough.

Oh my ! The "Ghost of the Gaps" !! ...

Regards.

Yep, the one Professor Dawkins summons here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j3U3ewzf0w

[loveberry]

So what's really going on? Are people making shit up? Deluded? There are enough haunted house type stories, I suspect there is something going on that science hasn't explained yet. Or maybe it has and I haven't read up enough.

Oh my ! The "Ghost of the Gaps" !! ...

Regards.

I had to look that phrase up. Interesting, thanks!

[Peter Harrison]

So what's really going on? Are people making shit up? Deluded? There are enough haunted house type stories, I suspect there is something going on that science hasn't explained yet. Or maybe it has and I haven't read up enough.

Oh my ! The "Ghost of the Gaps" !! ...

Regards.

I had to look that phrase up. Interesting, thanks!

It's an interesting one to remember. You will soon notice that 99% of the theists you meet will be relying on a god of the gaps.

[Newsworthy]

As this is my first posting far be it for me to throw some hard cold water on what is a very entertaining piece of utter nonsense, but I suppose the facts are a bit less colourful, but a lot more interesting in my opinion.

Is it at all relevant that Mr Rashid has two bankruptcy applications on the go against him at the moment? Or that every single one of his companies are being petitioned to be wound up too?

There is a much more interesting story here than the paranormal. The first thing is always question the assumptions that are being made. Millionair? Ghosts? Haunted? The facts when checked often demolish this kind of paranormal rubbish, all the information below is in the public domain and could be checked in five minutes by anyone who might take the bother to do it. Anyone can get this information its quite public. You can check on the companies by going on line to Companies House in the UK it's free. Mr Rashid is heading into bankruptcy as are his companies the so called haunted mansion has been taken back by the bank was that because he couldn't afford to pay his mortgage maybe?

Thanks for reading.

From the Land Registry in the United Kingdom.
B: Proprietorship Register


This register specifies the class of title and

identifies the owner. It contains any entries that

affect the right of disposal.


Title absolute


1 (05.02.2007) PROPRIETOR: ANWAR RASHID of 7 Wemyss Gardens,

Wollaton, Nottingham NG8 1BJ.

2 (05.02.2007) The price stated to have been paid on 21 November

2006 was £3,600,000.

3 (05.02.2007) RESTRICTION: No disposition of the registered estate

(other than a charge) by the proprietor of the registered estate,

or by the proprietor of any registered charge, is to be registered

without a certificate signed by the Solicitor or Secretary of

Clifton Hall Estate Management Company Limited (Co. Regn. No.

5856225) that the provisions of Clause 10 of The First schedule to

the Transfer dated 21 November 2006 referred to in the Charges

Page 2 of 3


B: Proprietorship Register continued


Register have been complied with. have been complied with.

4 (05.02.2007) RESTRICTION: No disposition of the registered estate

by the proprietor of the registered estate is to be registered

without a written consent signed by the proprietor for the time

being of the Charge dated 21 November 2006 in favour of Yorkshire

Bank Home Loans Limited referred to in the Charges Register.

5 (05.02.2007) RESTRICTION: No disposition of the registered estate

by the proprietor of the registered estate is to be registered

without a written consent signed by Chek Whyte or signed on his

behalf by his conveyancer Browne Jacobson LLp of 44 Castle Gate,

Nottingham NG1 7BJ.

6 (22.08.2007) RESTRICTION: Under an order of the Nottingham County

Court made on 17 August 2007 Claim No 7PA54439 no disposition by

the proprietor of the registered estate is to be registered except

under a further order of the Court.

7 (17.09.2007) BANKRUPTCY NOTICE entered under section 86(2) of the

Land Registration Act 2002 in respect of a pending action, as the

title of the proprietor of the registered estate appears to be

affected by a petition in bankruptcy against Anwar Rashid

presented in the High Court (Court Reference Number 9623 of 2007 )

(Land Charges Reference Number PA 155995/07 ).

8 (23.04.2008) BANKRUPTCY NOTICE entered under section 86(2) of the

Land Registration Act 2002 in respect of a pending action, as the

title of the proprietor of the registered estate appears to be

affected by a petition in bankruptcy against A Rashid presented in

the Nottingham County Court (Court Reference Number 690 of 2008 )

(Land Charges Reference Number PA 63647/08 ).


C: Charges Register


This register contains any charges and other matters

that affect the land.


1 (05.02.2007) A Transfer of the land in this title dated 21

November 2006 made between (1) Chek Whyte and (2) Anwar Rashid

contains restrictive covenants.


NOTE: Copy filed.


2 (05.02.2007) REGISTERED CHARGE dated 21 November 2006.

3 (05.02.2007) Proprietor: YORKSHIRE BANK HOME LOANS LIMITED (Co.

Regn. No. 1855020) of 30 St Vincent Place, Glasgow G1 2HL.

4 (05.02.2007) REGISTERED CHARGE dated 21 November 2006.

5 (05.02.2007) Proprietor: CHEK WHYTE of Bunny Hall, Loughborough

Road, Bunny, Nottinghamshire NG11 6QT.


End of register

Page

Individual Director Report
ANWAR RASHID ()
Summary
Nationality: BRITISH
Date of Birth: 21/06/1976
Latest Address: CLIFTON HALL, HOLGATE CLIFTON VILLAGE, NOTTINGHAM, NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, NG11 8NH, UK
Live Directorships of Trading/Non-Trading Companies: 10
Directorships of Dissolved Companies: 0
Live Directorships of Companies with Insolvency Proceedings: 0
Resigned Directorships: 0


Live Directorships of Trading/Non-Trading Companies
Company Name: PARK ASSOCIATES PARK HOMES LIMITED
Registered Number: 02076139
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 31/12/2005
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): 696
Latest Net Worth (£ '000): 3,229
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY DIRECTOR
Appointment Date: 24/11/2005
Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

Company Name: PARK ASSOCIATES PARK HOMES LIMITED
Registered Number: 02076139
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 31/12/2005
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): 696
Latest Net Worth (£ '000): 3,229
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY SECRETARY
Appointment Date: 24/11/2005
Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

Company Name: HADDON HEALTHCARE LIMITED
Registered Number: 03048388
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 31/12/2006
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): –
Latest Net Worth (£ '000): 1,583
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY DIRECTOR
Appointment Date: 24/11/2005
Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

Company Name: HADDON HEALTHCARE LIMITED
Registered Number: 03048388
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 31/12/2006
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): –
Latest Net Worth (£ '000): 1,583
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY SECRETARY
Appointment Date: 24/11/2005
Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

Company Name: AUTUMN GRANGE LIMITED
Registered Number: 03255590
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 30/04/2006
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): –
Latest Net Worth (£ '000): 3,380
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY DIRECTOR
Appointment Date: 19/08/2005
Occupation/Function: CARE HOME PROPRIETOR

Company Name: AUTUMN GRANGE LIMITED
Registered Number: 03255590
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: 30/04/2006
Latest Turnover (£ '000): –
Latest Pre-tax Profit (£ '000): –
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Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY SECRETARY
Appointment Date: 19/08/2005
Occupation/Function: CARE HOME PROPRIETOR

Company Name: THE PARK GROUP (PARK ESTATES) LIMITED
Registered Number: 05486514
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Latest Accounts Date: –
Latest Turnover : –
Latest Pre-tax Profit : –
Latest Net Worth : –
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY DIRECTOR
Appointment Date: 01/07/2005
Occupation/Function: CRAE HOME PROPRIETOR

Company Name: THE PARK GROUP (PARK ESTATES) LIMITED
Registered Number: 05486514
Status: Winding Up Petition
Latest Accounts Date: –
Latest Turnover : –
Latest Pre-tax Profit : –
Latest Net Worth : –
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY SECRETARY
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Occupation/Function: CRAE HOME PROPRIETOR

Company Name: PARK W.D.C LIMITED
Registered Number: 05954128
Status: Not Analysed
Latest Accounts Date: –
Latest Turnover : –
Latest Pre-tax Profit : –
Latest Net Worth : –
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Occupation/Function: DIRECTOR

Company Name: PARK W.D.C LIMITED
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Latest Net Worth : –
Position: APPOINTMENT OF COMPANY SECRETARY
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Occupation/Function: COMPANY SECRETARY

[CJ22]

Why didn't he just get the 'blood' DNA tested?

[Peter Harrison]

Why didn't he just get the 'blood' DNA tested?

Because it was ketchup.

[Dagger of Lath]

I'm thinking more like... maybe a house is on a spot where there are weird wind currents, stuff moves, weird sounds happen, that sort of thing. Or something to do with electricity or magnets or some kind of underground activity. Who knows?

I have a fascination with things like that - Nessie, the Bermuda Triangle, haunted houses, etc. Either it's lots of people with some wacky psychology or something cool we haven't figured out yet. It's very interesting.

Actually we're pretty up on the causes of this.

Infrasound, Electromagnetic stimulation of the Temporal Lobe of the brain, Pareiodolia, Hypnogogic states and of course liars making stuff up.

[loveberry]

I'm thinking more like... maybe a house is on a spot where there are weird wind currents, stuff moves, weird sounds happen, that sort of thing. Or something to do with electricity or magnets or some kind of underground activity. Who knows?

I have a fascination with things like that - Nessie, the Bermuda Triangle, haunted houses, etc. Either it's lots of people with some wacky psychology or something cool we haven't figured out yet. It's very interesting.

Actually we're pretty up on the causes of this.

Infrasound, Electromagnetic stimulation of the Temporal Lobe of the brain, Pareiodolia, Hypnogogic states and of course liars making stuff up.

Oh man. Tons of stuff I know nothing about and now want to research. I am blaming missed deadlines on you, my friend.

[Fallible]

If it helps any, scientists think that phenomena such as seeing something out of the corner of your eye, sensing a presence behind you and experiencing feelings of unexplained fear or dread are the results of electromagnetic vibrations affecting certain areas of your brain and also your eyeballs.

[Dagger of Lath]

Oh man. Tons of stuff I know nothing about and now want to research. I am blaming missed deadlines on you, my friend.

It's some quite awesome stuff.

Here's Dawkins interacting with temporal lobe stimulation.